A transcription done on a debate from the Kenyan Parliament
Timothy Mwithiga
Transcriber
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Ajira Digital
Parliament’s transcript featuring Hon. Junet Mohammed, Honourable Duale and the Speaker of the national assembly.
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Hon JUNET: The [00:00:02] unintelligible committee that was spoken to by the majority leader that's supposed to be formed in the afternoon, Mr. Speaker, shall be done by a selection committee Mr. Speaker.
The selection committee he is the chairman of that committee Mr. Speaker.
My party which sits in this house, Mr. Speaker has no membership of the selection committee, Mr. Speaker.
So I'm wondering how he's going to form [00:00:02] unintelligible committee without having membership from all sides of the house Mr. Speaker. Secondly, Mr. Speaker…
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[00:00:35] Mr.SPEAKER:That probably is not factual Honourable Junet.
[00:00:35] Hon JUNET: Mr.Speaker I know.
[00:00:35] Mr.SPEAKER:That's probably not factual because a select committee need not necessarily be formed by a selection committee.
[00:00:44] Mr.SPEAKER: But I will see anyway because you are actually prosecuting your case very well.
[00:00:44] Hon JUNET: But Mr. Speaker, whichever. I can tell you for sure that there is no membership from our side in any committee that will be formed for now and in the near future. Mr. Speaker.
[00:01:02] Hon JUNET: [00:01:02] unintelligible
[00:01:05] Mr.SPEAKER: I do not know why you are making the members very excited honourable.
Let's hear what he is prosecuting. Then if we still think we are not clear then we can [00:01:18] unintelligible
[00:01:05] Hon JUNET: “Nyamaza bwana!”
Mr speaker In this house, the last time Mr. Speaker,
[00:01:20] Mr.SPEAKER: What was your point of order, the leader, because really, I wanted the Honourable Junet to be heard fairly.
[00:01:27] Hon DUALE: Mr. speaker you have had Honourable Junet the de facto spokesperson of “Baba", saying,” I want to tell this house that there will be no committee that will be formed or otherwise, from their side”.
Mr. Speaker the only person as per the Standing Orders who can make that definite statement is the leader of minority who is Honorable John Mbandi.
Speaker, are we seen a coup within the opposition that honorable Junet wants to take over a legitimate office of another member through a coup [00:02:12] laughs.
[00:02:12] Mr.SPEAKER: Honourable Junet proceed , I can see you have only some three minutes remaining. I don't want it to be squandered by members who are [00:02:21] unintelligible.
[00:02:18] Hon JUNET: Mr. Speaker I’m holding brief for the minority leader Mr. Speaker, who is on official business for the party.
Mr. Speaker, the last time we discussed amendments to a bill on an election like one we are about to discuss Mr. Speaker in the 11th parliament ,Mr. Speaker was a very important matter, Mr. Speaker.
I remember we formed a bipartisan party, Mr. Speaker, where even I served Mr. Speaker.
The issue was so important, Mr. Speaker, not the way it is being handled casually like this, Mr. Speaker, that because you have numbers, you can just bring amendments to the house, Mr. Speaker, and we expect them to go through Mr. Speaker.
These are very important matters to this country. Mr. Speaker. This is changing the rules of the game in the middle of the game, Mr. Speaker, and I'm sure if I heard Jubilee very clear ,they said the president won the election Mr. Speaker.
If he has won, we don't need to change the rules Mr. Speaker. The rules should remain the same. And he will still win with the old rules that he used, Mr. Speaker.Why is this that has necessitated Mr. Speaker, the rules to be changed midway.
If honorable Duale is aware that or is confirming that the president won Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, under Article 10 in the Constitution, Mr. Speaker under values and principles Mr.
Speaker, when Parliament is enacting a law Mr. Speaker, they must regard the matter of national unity Mr. Speaker.
We have to address ourselves to these amendments, whether they are enhancing unity, Mr. Speaker, or they are going to create disunity Mr. Speaker. Because for sure and from the [00:04:00] unintelligible that I have, Mr. Speaker, we are not going to allow these amendments to go anywhere Mr. Speaker. I can tell you for free.
Mr. Speaker, these are very important issues that should be conversed in a bipartisan manner.
[00:04:14]Hon JUNET:Can you protect me from my grandfather [00:04:14] unintelligible Mr. Speaker.[00:04:14] unintelligible is a grandfather Mr. Speaker.
[00:04:14]Mr.SPEAKER: Order honorable Junet, I would have wanted to protect you, but you see, you are completely winding into the minutes of the bills that will come and yet we had agreed that we really need to only talk [00:04:24] unintelligible the rejection of the period.Now this particular motion and by the way you have less than a minute.
[00:04:14]Hon JUNET: I'm coming back Mr Speaker.
I stand guided
Five minutes
So Mr.Speaker, this issues I don't support this motion because Mr. Speaker, these issues are grievous matters, Mr. Speaker to this country.
Mr. Speaker, I request the majority leader to shelf this bill, let us discuss it in a bipartisan manner.
Mr. Speaker, let us look at the merits of the issue that they want to bring. And Mr. Speaker, ordinarily, the people who should be bringing amendments of this nature are IEBC Mr. Speaker. They should be the originators of this matter and the speaker because they are the ones who are going to conduct the elections Mr. speaker. Unless Jubilee wants to be a player, and at the same time want to conduct the election as the referee Mr.Speaker.
[00:05:15] Mr.SPEAKER: Okay now your time is over.
[00:05:20]Hon JUNET: It's still on Mr.Speaker
[00:05:20] Mr.SPEAKER: You know I had added you a minute , the time is over.