“My son called, and he says, ‘Daddy, I’m struggling with my spiritual life. I was supposed to be more focused but I didn’t stay focused, I sinned in the flesh,’” Michael told Religion Unplugged. He asked Kim if he had a girlfriend. No. A boyfriend? No. Is the church going to kick you out? “I said, Kim, what is the problem? He tells me, Daddy, you don’t know my church… you never know what they can do.”