Interview with Guion Bluford for Lift Every Voice

On August 30, 1983, Guion (better known as Guy) Bluford was a crew member aboard the Space Shuttle Challenger when it launched from Kennedy Space Station on its third mission, making Bluford the first Black astronaut to fly to space. Here he reflects on the importance of that achievement, the role he filled, and the advice he gives to young people seeking to make their way in the world.

Guion Bluford: I tell kids to chase their passions. I did not know as a kid that I would want to be an astronaut. I didn’t even think about flying. But I did find that I was passionate about airplanes. I wanted to learn as much as I could about them. And my whole career has been geared toward learning as much as possible about airplanes and spacecraft.

The possibility of being an astronaut is very small. We just selected astronauts maybe a couple of years ago; 18,000 people applied, and only 12 got selected. So you want to make sure that you’re doing a job that you really enjoy, even if you don’t become an astronaut.

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1983: Guion Bluford, a mission specialist on STS-8, the third flight of the Orbiter Challenger, inspects an experiment on the ship’s mid-deck.

GB: Male students going to Penn State had to take two years of R.O.T.C. So I took Air Force R.O.T.C. After two years, I elected to continue and go advanced R.O.T.C. [The advanced program teaches military tactics and leadership and comes with a commitment to serve as a military officer after graduation.] It gave me an opportunity to satisfy my draft requirements as well as an opportunity to serve my country. I thought that I would spend four or five years in the Air Force and then get out and become an aerospace engineer.

But between my junior and senior year at Penn State, I went to R.O.T.C. summer camp and found out that I could fly airplanes. And so I decided to go into the Air Force as a pilot, with the thought that I would learn how to be a better aerospace engineer if I flew airplanes. In my senior year, I learned to fly a Cessna 150. And in '64, I graduated from Penn State with a degree in aerospace engineering, a commission in the Air Force, and a private pilot’s license.

GB: I was very fortunate. We had 8,000 people who applied, and 35 of us were selected. I was surprised that I got selected. I’ve spoken with people at NASA and I asked them, why did they select me? And they basically said I was tough.

In '77, NASA started going through their 8,000 people, and they would send out letters to those eliminated. For most of '77, I sat around waiting for my letter. In the middle of that year, NASA started selecting finalists in groups of 20. So every week you’d see 20 to 40 names of people NASA had selected to bring to Houston. In October or November, I was in Washington, D.C. on a business trip, and I came back to my hotel room and found a note on the door that said Contact NASA. So I called, and the guy said, “You’ve been selected as a finalist; we’d like to have you in Houston.” I spent a week in Houston. I saw the 19 other people in my group of 20, and they were strong people. We all went through a physical—I’ve never had a physical that thorough—and a psychiatric exam. And I got an opportunity to meet astronauts, which was exciting. But you didn’t know if you were going to make it or not.

In January, I was driving to work [in Ohio], and I heard on the radio that NASA had selected 35 astronauts. So I assumed that I hadn’t gotten my rejection letter yet. But I got to work, and at about 10:00 I got a call from NASA. And this guy at the other end asked me what the weather was like in Dayton. And I’ll tell you, the weather was miserable. So I complained about that. And he calmly said, “You know, it doesn’t snow in Houston; would you like to come to Houston?” And so that was the call that told me that I had been selected for the astronaut program.

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STS-39 Mission Specialist Guion Bluford dons his partial pressure suit in the Operations and Checkout Building, Kennedy Space Center, Florida, April 28, 1991. Bluford, the first African American man in space, first went to space in 1983.

GB: I’m pretty sure all African Americans see that. I didn’t let it bother me. I grew up in a world where I felt I could do anything I wanted to do through hard work. And I was able to do that over the years.

GB: When I came into the program, there were six women in our class. And you had me and Ron McNair and Fred Gregory, three African Americans. And one Asian American, Ellis Onizuka. So we recognized that we were breaking the mold, with reference to astronauts who are primarily male and white. We knew that one of us would eventually get selected—first woman, first African American. Ellis Onizuka didn’t have any competition for first Asian American. I didn’t anticipate being selected.

I was happy to learn that in '82, I would fly as part of STS-8. And it just so happened to be a historic mission, in reference to being the first African American to fly in space. I feel honored to be in that role.

Once I got down, I wanted to fly a second time, which I did, in ’85. And then we had the Challenger accident [in 1986] and we lost Ron McNair and company. I wanted to stay around, and I flew a third and fourth time.

One of the things that I really wanted to do was not only to break the mold, but to help pull other African Americans into the program and get them to fly. I feel honored with reference to not only leading the charge, but helping a bunch of other African Americans who came behind me. I take a great deal of pride in that.

“One of the things that I really wanted to do was not only to break the mold, but to help pull other African Americans into the program and get them to fly.”

GB: One of the things that I tried to do was just do the best I could. Whatever advice I could provide to those who came behind me, I would try it. But encouragement, opening the way for other African Americans, I thought was my responsibility.

With African American organizations, we help those that come behind. Victor Glover just got down from flying in space. He will go and try to help Jeanette Epps. Jeanette Epps will help Jessica Watkins, and so forth and so on. Once you get down, try and help the team behind you.

“With African American organizations, we help those that come behind.”

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1983: Guion Bluford on STS-8, the third flight of the Orbiter Challenger.

GB: I’ve been a fighter pilot with over 5,200 hours of jet time and a commercial pilot’s license. I’ve been an astronaut; I’ve flown four times in space. I’ve got four earned degrees and 14 honorary doctorate degrees. I’ve been inducted into three halls of fame. I’ve been a researcher on both the aero side and the space side. I’ve been a senior aerospace engineering executive with three different companies. And I’m an explorer—I’ve scuba-dived all over the world. But I am basically a kid who grew up in West Philadelphia, got interested in airplanes, and has had an exciting career as an aerospace engineer. I’m an aerospace engineer who has found something that he enjoys doing.

Amber N. Ford, Photographer: Amber N. Ford is a photographer/artist based in Cleveland. She received her BFA in photography from the Cleveland Institute of Art in 2016. Ford is best known for her work in portraiture, which she refers to as a “collaborative engagement between photographer and sitter.” While always questioning “the truth,” Ford aims to establish a platform in which her sitters may present themselves as they please.Her work has been shown in galleries such as the Kent State University, Transformer Station, SPACES Gallery, The Morgan Conservatory, The Cleveland Print Room, Zygote Press, and Waterloo Arts in Cleveland. Ford was selected as a 2019 Gordon Square Arts District Artist- In-Residence and was also awarded an Ohio Arts Council Individual Excellence Award for 2017.

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